If There is No Victim, There is No Crime

[Keith Broaders]

In order tor a crime to take place they must first create a victim. The individual accused of a crime must violate the life, liberty or property of another individual. One of the rights mandated in our Bill of Rights is that a person accused of a crime has the right to cross examine the witnesses against him. In other words, the defendant has a right to confront the injured party.

If there is no injured party, and hence, no one to cross examine, the individual accused of the crime cannot defend himself in a court of law.

A government is a legal fiction and has no rights and cannot be an injured party. Only human beings have rights. Individuals can testify against an accused person but a legal fiction cannot. When an unjust law is enforced, the accused individual becomes a victim.

Amendment VI

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense."

Ninety-eight percent of the people in prison were denied their right to a trial by a jury. In order to avoid the possibility of being convicted of a more serious crime the accused pleads guilty to a lesser crime. In many cases they have committed no crime at all. This practice is an enemy of justice and a great way to raise money for corrupt lawyer and judges.

In the land of the free, we have more of our people in prison than any other country in the world. The biggest crime today is that we incarcerate people for committing victimless crimes.

A crime has been committed only when the life, liberty or property of one human being is violated by another human being. In order for a crime to take place there must be both a victim and a person responsible.

We have a God given right enumerated in the Fifth Amendment that guarantees those suspected of a crime will have the opportunity to cross examine the witnesses against them. When there is no victim there is no one to testify against the accused.

Only individuals have rights and artificial persons such as corporations can not testify in a court of law. 

When people violate a rule, regulation, code, ordinance or statute they have not violated the law and have not committed a crime. 

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

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[Jeffrey Gaul]

What are we if none of those?

[Stephen John Guidetti]

Because of our unseen contacts with the state and Federal governments they are calling our violations of their statutes intentional and criminal with the State and Federal governments claiming to be the victims in contract violations, under the penal code side of the statutes.

Unseen contracts with Banks, Social Security, Drivers Licenses, Marriage Licenses, Birth Certificates, Mail Box numbers, Addresses

No one is required by law to have a Social Security number or a marriage license, Birth Certificate or Bank account, Mail box, Address, the list goes on and on.

If you use the service provided by the government you are required to pay for it.

An example: Banks are federally regulated and when you apply for aa bank account you are agreeing to recognize IRS US code title 26 as the law.

Then when you try to fight income tax after using a Federally regulated bank what do you think a judge is going to say you used the service and now to don't want to agree to all the contracts.

That is not going to happen. 

These things that are all provided by the government.

[daniel allan:pendergast]

As I keep saying, You do not have a bank account, drivers license, SS#, marriage license, address, etc. and you never did. You also never were liable for income taxes. All the foregoing are for the straw man, not the living. Govco operates under the presumption that you have agreed to be the fiduciary for their straw man and the liability that attaches thereto.

Learning to sign as the agent instead of the fiduciary is the first step. Rebutting the presumption of surety-ship is the next step. Creating your own straw men to interface with their fraud laden commercial system is probably the biggest thing one can do to avoid their never ending claims on your energy.

[Stephen John Guidetti]

So what you are saying is that I need to interface or participate with their fraud laden commercial system.

So Help me understand what does "Fraud" mean?

Look up the definition of "Straw-man" in Black's. 6th Ed., It's something you use to do something that is against the "Law."

Why do we want to break the "Law?"

Why do we want to do that instead of changing the system? 

Help me understand why I need to participate in a system of  "Fraud?"

Is Fraud" legal in their system?

Provide some factual information of where you are coming from besides Babel.

I have been around for 69 years and nothing I have ever used from the Patriot community has ever worked and Oh by the way has caused more problems.

I know how to sign as an agent and that doesn't work either. I have tried it to no avail, and it has just caused more problems.

If and A BIG IF what you say is true than we need to stop the "Fraud System," NOT Participate in it.

Because Fraud is Against the "LAW" and there is no Statute of limitation on "FRAUD."

[daniel allan:pendergast]

"So what you are saying is that I need to interface or participate with their fraud laden commercial system."

Only if you want to be able to get a job, feed your family, and engage in hundreds of other activities that seem important to most people.

Yes, fraud is legal in their system. In fact, it is the basic premise their whole system is based on, however, it can never be lawful. This is a Cabal installed system of private commercial public policy posing as 'law'. You have been provided a straw man as an interface with that system. Without the straw man you would be relegated to living in the wild as a hunter- gatherer. Not the end of the world but certainly the end of the world as we have come to know it.

The real fraud being encountered is the fact that we have a de-facto regime posing as a de-jure system. Fraud is against the law but it is not against public policy. Fraud is when your opponent has a duty to reveal a truth but, instead, remains silent to your detriment.

I'm sorry that nothing from the patriot community has ever worked for you. There's a lot of information out there on how to deal with their system--some of it honest [at least in principle] and a lot of it fed to us by the system that is intended to cause problems.

Not participating in the "fraud system" would mean not owning property, not being employed, not getting involved in any commercial activities [buying food, clothing, etc.] where the use of [fraudulent] Federal Reserve Notes are required. I, myself, haven't figured out how to do that yet, so I attempt to buffer myself to some degree by creating my own straw men.

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

Balderdash with "hunter/gatherer" crap Dan,

I am flying well under the radar and have not used an SSN in forever. I simply contract and get paid in debt currency, (still useable on the open market). 

I didn't have to build an "Off the grid" home in Alaska or turn into Grizzly Adams. Your assertion that you can only feed your family or interface with normal business as a straw man is patently false and completely ridiculous.

[daniel allan:pendergast]

I'm not sure just what you are implying. Are you saying that you have forsaken the use of the legal fiction straw man? That will never happen if you own registered real property, have a bank account, utilize electric service, telephone, city water, etc.

I'm not sure why one would not be able to use the SS# and not incur liabilities. The SS# belongs to the SS administration and its primary function [in my opinion] is to enable the system to determine the commercial activity of their straw man.

A man who works for himself can always insist on being paid in cash, however, how many people have the awareness to do that or even be self employed?

My comments were intended to apply to the average American, rather than the studied few who are able to ambulate around the obstacles.

Please keep me informed of any further 'balderdash crap' I may have posted.

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

Yes

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

Hang in there Stephen,

We are trying to assemble the advice you're looking for. May I suggest you start where the rest of us are. Go get 6 certified authorized copies of your original Birth Certificate. Long form only. Certified original. Upper and Lower case typing of names, etc. Start there and let me know when you've achieved that step.

[Jeffrey Gaul]

While this is all true, we have allowed pee-brain scum to become our servants and they refuse to adhere to our inviolate natural rights, so us taking any such action has proven to be foolish and will be until we take our governments back.

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

Agree.