The Income Tax is Illegal, Immoral and Unconstitutional

[Keith Broaders]

[Russell Thompson]

If this is true, how come the local, state, and federal agencies continue to impose and enforce these unlawful taxes? Why? Because the collective society prefers to sit on their collective asses and do nothing in fear. They prefer to watch ballgames, go to Hooter's to see buxom women, drink beer or engage in other pleasure seeking endeavors.

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

Reminds me of ancient Rome.

[troy joseph]

You hit the nail right on the head !!  Fear, complacency, comfort zones, laziness, etc.

[Larry V]

Many years of suppression of our people through fear tactics, mental conditioning through propaganda, and just about everything else one could imagine in the act of brain washing, We, The People have become too tolerant of what has been imposed upon us.

And when there are those who defect from this mind conditioning and step up to the plate, to try to defy the Un-Constitutional, Illegal and Immoral acts, they become targets of those who are enforcing all of these acts against us, the federal government.

And the government knows very well that we have become extremely irritated with them and their activities as they have actually stated so during some of their question and answer sessions during their Congressional meetings.  They openly admit that they fear another Armed American Revolution and that they wonder why we should obey their laws when they do Not.  Again, this is one of their comments.

What is Not surprising to me when I was watching their sessions, when this language began, All democrats got up and walked out, not one stayed behind to hear any portion of their concerns.

I am afraid that it is going to take a very rude wake up call before our country becomes motivated enough to stand up and actually try to do anything about the mess we are in.

People just don't want to be bothered with our country's problems or they have too much faith in our government to even become concerned.

[joseph cronin jr.]

According to our old friend Carl Miller , " USC Title 31 section 742 ", " Except as otherwise provided by law all stocks, bonds , treasury notes ,and other obligations of the United States Government shall be exempt from the state , local, and municipal authority. This exemption extends to EVERY form of taxation that would require that either the obligations or the interest thereon or both be considered directly or indirectly in the computation of the tax . See Memphis Bank & Trust Cs. V Garner, 459 US 392 ( 1983 ) ; etc. , etc. , etc. .Carl will tell you that the scum in DC have washed section 743 through section 753 out of the records ; but if you use it they can't deny it and they're Screwed .Watch the case get dismissed or  ???

Good luck , God bless and don't forget Joey

[Bill May]

A tax on the labor of a citizen of the United States aka US citizen, which is a citizen of the federal gov't is completely constitutional.  Unlike those people that are only citizens of a state, a citizen of the United States has very few rights and naturally a citizen of the fed gov is subject to all fed laws no matter where they live.

We know the gov't is claiming that everyone is a fed subject due to two important things:

1] the fed gov't is ruling everyone in the states concurrently with the state gov't and it [ fed gov ] claims its laws are superior to state laws, thus nullifying state sovereignty and thereby the 10th amendment.  The states did not delegate in the fed constitution the power to the fed gov't to do this to its true citizens and due to this, this power to rule state-only citizens by the fed gov concurrently with the state cannot be found in the fed constitution.

2] all fed prosecutions are processed in an Art 4 federal district territorial court. Such courts are not granted any authority in the states over state-only citizens but they have full authority over federal / 14th subjects living in a state.

It is not that the state and federal tax on labor is unconstitutional, it is its application upon those people that are, as per original intent, only citizens of a state and not at the same time not a citizen of the United States that is unconstitutional.

"Both before and after the Fourteenth Amendment to the federal Constitution, it has not been necessary for a person to be a citizen of the United States in order to be a citizen of his state."  Crosse v. Bd. of Supvr,s of Elections, 221 A.2d. 431 (1966)

The question that each individual needs to ask is: 'Am I a state-only citizen or am I a citizen of the United States?"  Meaning an individual who holds their citizenship only due to the adoption of the 14th amendment.

[know your rights]

Bill,

you're very close; the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen was created by the federal guv in 1868; it was created for the benefit of man, not to cause him harm; a state Citizen is different and distinct from a U.S. citizen; state Citizen is synonymous with man [collectively known as the people]; at any time, you can exercise your right and put on your U.S. citizen costume when you believe it's a benefit to do so; at the same time, you can exercise your right to not act in the capacity as the U.S. citizen if you believe it is going to cause you harm; there is no law that reads at all times, you have to be operating in the capacity of the U.S. citizen; no one can force another man to do something he do not wish to do; even in their own guv codes under the 13th Amendment reads 'involuntary servitude and slavery in prohibited.'

the guv operate under the presumption that man [state Citizen; the people] is, at all times, operating in the capacity of their U.S. citizen, until proven otherwise; the U.S. citizen is a guv employee [see the social security act of 1945], and is subject to all the guv codes, and is also a 'tax-payer.'

man [also known as 'state Citizens' and 'the people'] have unalienable rights granted to them by their creator G0d; U.S. citizens have only 'civil rights' granted to it by its creator, the guv, which is mans [state Citizen; the people] creation; the creation NEVER has any authority or jurisdiction over its creator.

[Bill May]

You are absolutely correct that there is a huge difference between a person who is only a citizen of their state and someone who is a citizen of the United States via the 14th amendment. The first is suppose to have rights and the 2nd mainly has privileges or civil rights. MLK was tricked into marching for mere civil rights.

Citizenship as per original intent, if you are born in one of the several states, is determined by race. No state nor the fed constitution has been amended to modify this.

If you are born a state citizen and claim to be a federal / 14th subject for special privileges, that is fraud. If you are a state-only citizen by birth and work for the fed gov, your citizenship status is unchanged. You are simply a fed employee and subject to fed labor taxes.

If you are a state citizen by birth and the states and fed gov knowingly ignore this and impose federal citizenship upon you, which is what has been happening beginning back around 1910, that is a criminal offense and possibly treason because it is a crime to intentionally take away from anyone a right [ or long list of rights ] that is [ are ] secured by a constitution or [ as with the 14th due process clause ] granted by it.

The 13th forbids slavery in federal areas and naturally after the 14th was adopted, of federal citizens in the states. To outlaw all slavery in the states, the states had to ban it in their constitutions.

This was not specifically for the negro. It applied to the Irish who were sold by the British as slaves and to the English who were brought here as child slaves. Yes, the negroes ignore the fact that there were quite a few white slaves in America. Are the negroes suppose to pay restitution to them since a lot of negroes owned slaves?

[Bill May]

I have not read that there were more white slaves than negro ones, but according to the old census records, there were a higher percentage of negro slave owners than white slave owners and the first American slave owner was a negro.

[know your rights]

keith,

the income tax is definitely not illegal; it is created for the guv and its employees: the U.S. citizens, and it must follow their rules; its not anyone else's fault that you do not know your status in law and that you believe your a 'tax-payer.'

people need to do some research and find out what's going on, and quit whining and crying about how taxes are illegal; obviously you have no clue who it applies to and more importantly you have no clue of your status in law.

this is why this country is in the mess it's in today.

just because they use to teach this stuff in 'civics' and then was intentionally removed, doesn't mean that you can't learn on your own by doing your own due diligence and research to find out what's going on; or did you expect it to be handed to you on a silver platter?

[Morton Thomson Jr.]

I believe KYR,

That Keith simply meant that the way it's being improperly applied with an iron fist and the fact that they are fully aware of the unconstitutionality of these acts is what's immoral.

[Mustang 6]

I AGREE !!