The Meaning of Equality

[Keith Broaders]

Everyone on the planet is unique as witnessed by the fact that no two individuals have the same finger prints. Each individual was born with a combination of strengths and weaknesses.

We come in all shapes and sizes and some of us possess great intellectual capacity while others do not. Some of us were blessed with exceptional physical ability and others have talents in music or art. Some of us have been blessed with many talents and others have relatively few, but we all have time and the opportunity to create goods and services that other people are willing to purchase.

The purpose of schools should be to help young people discover who they are and how they can best utilize their time and talent to compete in a free society.

The economic system embraced by our founders was based upon the idea that everyone should have the equal opportunity to compete for the bounties of life. They believed that no one should be given special benefits or privileges that would give them an advantage over their competition simply because they think their entitled to it.

In order to give a man a benefit he hasn't earned, we must first take something from the individual who earned it. The social program we call welfare,  steals the production of one man to provide benefits to another. This process violates the property rights of the individual providing the benefit and robs the other of the incentive to produce his own benefits. Both the individuals become victims of the system that redistributes the wealth and production of the first man to benefit the second.

The role of the government should be to prevent individuals and corporations from creating monopolies. Hence our Anti-Trust laws. When a monopoly is created the corporation has no competition and as a result the corporation has no incentive to produce better products at a lower price.

When laws are written which requires that children in the public schools be provided FREE milk, the government has created a monopoly for those that produce milk. If a law is passed that requires everyone to wear a seat belt, the government has created a monopoly for companies that manufacture seat belts.

Virtually every law passed by Congress gives one industry or corporation a potential monopoly. Those who benefit will line the pockets of the legislators with campaign contributions to close the deal.

[Guy Rich]

That's EXACTLY what I am saying Keith... Our Constitution is supposed to detail what a government can and cannot do. We ARE all equal before GOD and we SHOULD all be equal with regard to our Constitution, no matter what one's "station" in life is.

Your apple picking argument while basic and straightforward, ignores some elements in our modern economic environment; these being greed, selfishness & self-centered, no moral "compass" and no regard for one's fellow citizens or country.

Case in point:

All of the so called American Corporations that have moved all of their production and technology to communist China, DESPITE the FACT that the Communist Chinese have EVERY intention of surpassing the United States economically and militarily, and reducing the U.S. to the status of a vassal state.

I have nothing against capitalism per se, I'm in business myself. However I am NOT that greedy of gain that I would do business with the avowed enemies of my country.  Think about it. 

[Keith Broaders]

The Constitution was written by a bunch of rich white men who wanted nothing more than to protect their wealth and their positions of privilege.

While many people think that it was written for the benefit of the common man, this is simply not true. Please check out the writings of Lysander Spooner regarding the Constitution.

[Quisno Rodonovich]

It would seem there's a pie in the sky point of view here.

This nation has traversed many definitions of itself.

When one studies the purpose of this nation (republican form of Democracy), you  find that those who are and those who aren't, are very much in display by a critical eye.

In order to take a Country, first one must get people to disassociate themselves from the true nation and through a dialectic, transpose it to something egregious and foreign to the people's nature.

Well what have we here? People learning definitions in different ways. Meanings to one are nothing to the meanings of others. I have put the Hegelian dialectic in here and have asked others if they studied it? The purpose was not to incite hate and discourse but to allow others to put their minds around a very complex diversion.

Keith looks at the Constitution from the eyes of many of the founders. While you, Guy look at its transposition through definition , (Blacks law dictionary; all editions should be studied. ) translation for whose purpose?

Who is in charge of the money?  The Barron Rothschild was correct in saying ' let  them elect any one they want for when I control the money I will control them all.'

I put a post in here of Madison's intent on the republican form of government.

In ending it's all too easy to define what you see, but if you don't study its purpose at the first to what it has become today, you have done no service to yourself and your beliefs;  learning = the tool of freedom and justice.

Am I clear??

[Oleg Gielman]

Keith,

Since when is measuring work output**, such as bushels of apples, a measure of equality?!  …equality is in God given strengths, God does not create weaknesses, man does!  …so it is the community’s responsibility to value each strength equally, hence assist all men in finding work that’s naturally compatible.

Productivity has nothing to do with equality, that’s why a shovel costs less than a backhoe …aligning productivity with equality is why children are indoctrinated like robots and each one of us has a monetary value to the elites (not unlike during slavery) ...like Eric said, value through programming.

**if a child or a less muscular man picks three bushels of apples vs a muscular man’s ten, the measure is in talent and capability (a God given strength), and not some proportionally robotic measurement like that of silver or gold …by the way the larger man eats more and takes up more room too.

[Keith Broaders]

The value of things are determined by what people are willing to pay. A New York steak has a higher price tag than a hot dog, because people are willing to pay more for the things they esteem to be of greater value.

If I pay a man $10 for picking 10 bushels of apples and pay another man $3 for picking 3 bushels of apples, I have paid them equally for the work they have performed. To pay both men $10 would be unjust.

Each man should have a right to sell his services for whatever he and his potential employer agree upon. It could be dollars or donuts, feathers or french fries.

[Oleg Gielman]

The value of things is determined by what people are willing to consume, if you like steak eat steak, same goes for chicken and everything else.

You aren’t supposed to pay me for my work, God has already done that, not through pay per se but through energy, we all have it (strengths) … all I want is a chicken today, I had steak yesterday …all you are supposed to do is give me credit for picking three bushels of apples and let the community decide (based on my age, work ethic and history) if I deserve a chicken today …what’s even more rewarding is natural credit enhances quality, because everyone does what they enjoy (eventually most) ...but if necessary quality control can always be available, because it is "free".

[Oleg Gielman]

Amen Guy ...Some "founders" such as Alexander Hamilton, or a$$-holes, pushed for monetary, hence immoral societies because they didn't want to lose their (kingly) king's gains and inheritances …the few a$$ Holes had their way because no one in the majority of The Founders had a replacement for money, satan’s weapon of choice.

[Keith Broaders]

The Constitution of No Authority

[Mangus Colorado]

Interesting article on the Texas Judge that blocked the Executive order to make illegals - legal - how is that for wordsmith work? huh Q?

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/03/22/texas-attorney-general-u-s-...

[Quisno Rodonovich]

Don't get me Started on Texas. Obama's new objective; take the people in Texas add Utah and hang em high and the southern tip of California all have remarked down with Obama and his tyranny; And for the record this is not a revolution on the part of the people. This is a revolution by and for the Elite bankers and the US military complex of the World.

Am I clear on this?

[Keith Broaders]

It is impossible for everyone to be equal in every way. You can't get a cow to lay eggs, and you can't legislatively transform a midget into an NBA All-Star. You can't provide everyone with equal wealth without taking from those who produce more to give to those who produce less. Justice and Equality cannot co-exist. 

[Guy Rich]

Keith please forgive me...but you don't appear to be a stupid person.

I think you're actually quite intelligent. So I find these sophomoric analogies you state a tad "off topic" shall we say?

Justice and Equality as it relates to the Constitution has NOTHING to do with a citizen's economic standing in American society. However I'm not so foolish as to think one's economic standing has no effect when it comes to the practice of justice and equality before the law. The same goes for politics and our electoral process.

We are striving for the ideal where money has no influence regarding the Rights of all of the citizens of America. Will we achieve it?  No, but that does not mean we should stop striving. (remember "The Right to pursue Happiness"?)

I mean, who said at anytime the Constitution was to provide equal wealth to all citizens???? Remember our rights as set forth in the Constitution come from GOD, NOT from government.

I've been reading the Bible a long time now and will continue to do so...but I'm pretty sure that GOD don't give a s##t how much money a person has... you can't buy a staircase to heaven.

Therefore our Constitution and indeed all the laws of our land MUST be "blind" to how much wealth a person has or does not have. I find that concept worth fighting for.