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 The owners of the corporation that is doing business as the UNITED STATES are the stock holders.  While their names are not published, we know that the stockholders of the Federal Reserve and the IRS are also the same criminals that own the stock in the corporate UNITED STATES.

We the People are the employees of the corporation and the Congressmen and women that are elected answer to the stockholders and not the employees.  As long as our elected officials take their marching orders from the stockholders and not the people, our nation is destined to fail.

Replacing one set of corrupt politicians with new ones will not change anything as long as the stockholders are calling the shots.  Eliminate the bankers and we can restore liberty to the land that once was free.

Anyone that has a social security card is at least a part-time government employee of the UNITED STATES corporation.  Everyone that is registered to vote has affirmed that they are subjects to the jurisdiction of the UNITED STATES and that they no longer have God given rights. They merely have privileges granted to them by the government.

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Whoever has the power to create the currency owns the country and everyone living in it. Unless a man has the power to create his own money, he is not free. He is debt slave to whoever created the money. Since the Federal Reserve creates the currency, the Stockholder/Bankers are the creditors and "We the People" are the debtors.

I'm sure glad I came to this discussion. I just found a reply that I sent to another discussion, and it was not appropriate for this discussion. It got deleted, I hope.

 

What do you have in mind, Keith?

I was in a seminar one time where this was being discussed, and the idea was to create our own bank. Supposedly, anybody can start a bank, and you can use a barter system with it as well. The bank just keeps track of everybody's credits from one person to another, and you can also create your own currency. In that discussion, Wheat and other food sources is what backed the paper money and credits, so there was a genuine backed form of currency.

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

I think the only way out of this mess is to start a new economy based on Silver and Gold. Unless of course we can eliminate the IRS and expose the world bankers. But we still would need to start a new economy. The only way I can see to do this is by barter, trade and gold and silver among ourselves the true Americans. 
 
Online Professor said:

Whoever has the power to create the currency owns the country and everyone living in it. Unless a man has the power to create his own money, he is not free. He is debt slave to whoever created the money. Since the Federal Reserve creates the currency, the Stockholder/Bankers are the creditors and "We the People" are the debtors.

The Government has taken all our manufacturing away, our farming away and regulated us to death so we can no longer be self sufficient. The wise people will start growing, planting. Of course if you do anything on a large enough scale to attract their attention they will just come in and put you out of business. The only way to do this would be to completely come out of the system. Own your land, don't accept any type of Govt money, assistance and not register yourself with any Govt agency. Which means you would also have to quit paying taxes. If you get caught homesteading you maybe arrested. That is their way of robbing of us our funds through the court system.
 
Wayne Bachmann said:

I'm sure glad I came to this discussion. I just found a reply that I sent to another discussion, and it was not appropriate for this discussion. It got deleted, I hope.

 

What do you have in mind, Keith?

I was in a seminar one time where this was being discussed, and the idea was to create our own bank. Supposedly, anybody can start a bank, and you can use a barter system with it as well. The bank just keeps track of everybody's credits from one person to another, and you can also create your own currency. In that discussion, Wheat and other food sources is what backed the paper money and credits, so there was a genuine backed form of currency.

You tell him Rhonda!! I'm with you!!

Rhonda Herrington said:

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

I am not sorry to disappoint your "presumptions", but I don't even have a television at home, and the ONLY time I even see it is at other people's houses, which is rare. You will have to come up with another theory! Are you a BAR lawyer? You are good at "presumptions" that are incorrect!
 
Rhonda Herrington said:

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

Wayne, I don't have a TV either and have not for several years. They are just brainwashing machines and you can tell by the babble that comes out of people's mouths who are believing what they hear on the news. Folks, all the news is manufactured. Even Fox lies. You can not get any truth from the MSM. You have to do your own research. Verify, research and listen to alternative media. And not everyone you hear there really understand the problems. My first rule is if they are saying anything contrary to the Bible I don't even listen. If you do not filter what you read and hear through the only absolute truth there is in the world then how can anyone tell what is the truth. There has to be a benchmark for truth or a source of absolute truth or nothing is true. And even more important. Truth rights true so you have to discern what you hear and weigh it against what you already know to be true. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Wayne Bachmann said:

You tell him Rhonda!! I'm with you!!

Rhonda Herrington said:

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

I agree, there is only one God and nothing I say matters now because I am a new age nutcase. Oh well.

Rhonda Herrington said:

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

Rhonda,

I would say that you and I are on the same page, and this is totally amazing to me. Why aren't there more women like you around? Meaning, patriotic types who are not into that propaganda machine. The only TV I ever care to watch, and I do enjoy them are nature shows, documentaries (personally filtered as you said), and the weather satellite pictures. Beyond that, I have no use for it. By the way, I like your spunky spirit!!

Wayne
 
Rhonda Herrington said:

Wayne, I don't have a TV either and have not for several years. They are just brainwashing machines and you can tell by the babble that comes out of people's mouths who are believing what they hear on the news. Folks, all the news is manufactured. Even Fox lies. You can not get any truth from the MSM. You have to do your own research. Verify, research and listen to alternative media. And not everyone you hear there really understand the problems. My first rule is if they are saying anything contrary to the Bible I don't even listen. If you do not filter what you read and hear through the only absolute truth there is in the world then how can anyone tell what is the truth. There has to be a benchmark for truth or a source of absolute truth or nothing is true. And even more important. Truth rights true so you have to discern what you hear and weigh it against what you already know to be true. Wouldn't you agree?
 
Wayne Bachmann said:

You tell him Rhonda!! I'm with you!!

Rhonda Herrington said:

Keep your new age propaganda to yourself. Jesus is God and there is only one God. We will stick to our guns and our Bibles. Your new age God is named Satan.


 
Karl Norman Meyers said:

Well sorry to disappoint you Wayne but when did prophets ever care or worry about motor oil? I get my information from higher sources than the Tell a Vision news. We have several different ascended masters whom have channeled information to us now that says we are entering the Golden Age, It took Earth about 29 thousand years to get to this point again where one age is ending (Kali yuga) and a new one begins. A world war would only benefit the greedy Zionist bankers who are out of business. There are also several extraterrestrials from several parts of our milky way that have said the same thing, and they will not allow any more nuclear weapons to be used on Earth. I know it is a reach for some people to believe in ET's and ascended masters, but Jesus is an ascended master, and he is saying the same thing. What you are hearing is from the Zionist bankers who want yet another war for banking profits, but that won't happen.  Are you ready for a new paradigm of world peace? What you are getting is also known as fear porn. You probably get that from your Tell a Vision news? Turn it off Wayne. The TV has been the most effective brainwashing tool ever invented. They want you in fear because you can be so easily controlled while you are in constant fear and think this war is going to start. It won't. I suppose you are also one of those people that thinks this war must be the USA attacking Iran? That is Zionist propaganda and the Zionists are from Israel.  Heck, they own the cable TV companies and the newscast people are paid to lie to us just like the day after 9/11 when everyone who worked for Associated Press (AP) was told to stop talking about, showing, or discussing any bombs that went off on 9/11. The next day they all did stop talking about bombs to keep their jobs, and look what happened. No one heard about all those explosions that happened on 9/11. They did such a good job of controlling the media, that 60% of people in New York City didn't even know that building seven had come down. All of that is changing and no, we will not have another world war. If you want one bad enough the ET's or ascended masters can send you to a planet like that where you can kill people and blow things up, but that is not the plan for our dear Earth.

   We need a step by step plan to help us - especially us retired folk - on how to dump this corporation .

Also how to defeat the criminals puppets that will inevitably take us to court and try to take our social security away.

Hi James. The corporation has been destroyed and there will be announcements coming out very soon that will tell us all that the criminals have been arrested, and the corporation called the UNITED STATES has been shut down. As part of the announcements, we will all learn that there is a new gold and silver backed currency banking system established. The proof of this will be when we see the elimination of the gold fringed flags flying now in all courts, schools, and banks, and in the white house. When those gold fringed flags are gone, you will know that the republic has been restored!

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